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walangkakwentakwenta- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 11 2004, 01:56 PM)
QUOTE (walangkakwentakwenta @ Jun 10 2004, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 10 2004, 12:51 PM)
i think d biggest misconception wud b...

"that women lack the basic human intellectual qualities to be equal to men"


That brings me to another question:

Why is there in women's thoughts about double standards in equality of sexes?


You want to be treated equal in terms of salary, intelligence, job performance, job position, power in politics and stuffs....... but on a date, you want men to open the door for you, let you sit in the car first, pull the chair for you and all those chivalrous acts. tambayan/4_6_2v.gif

based on d 2 examplez dat u cited.. i don't think it cud b considered as double standard in equality of sexes on d women'z perspective.. bcuz both examplez wer actually standardz set by MEN:

On ur first example bout equal treatment.. History showz dat men dictated civilization and put women on an inferior position.. even lawz wer masculine bcuz d lawmakerz wer all men.. it'z like women wer juz placed in a corner and wer told dat these r d only rolez u have to play.. der was even another misconception dat "women who became educated or pursue careers permanently sacrifice their chances to have a family in the process"... it was tailored precisely to discourage women from seeking independence.. these misconceptionz r d onez women have been fighting for all dis yearz.. boiling down to one thing "EQUAL RIGHTZ.. EQUAL OPPORTUNITY".. and i think we deserve it tambayan/thmbup.gif

On ur second example bout chivalry actz on datez.. women didn't ask for it.. in d mid 1800s Men decided to adopt a "Gentleman's Etiquette" for d purpose of creating a so-called "polite society".. and adhering to such etiquette wud make them noble and respectable supreme beingz tambayan/rolleyes2.gif .. i juz don't understand y men create such rulez and now they ask women to explain "why" tambayan/altpissed.gif tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

That's basically what my question is......If men set both of these rules, Why do women want to change the first rule(equal opportunites and such) and prefer to stay the second one(the chivalrous acts)? If we will talk about equality of sexes, Why can't we change both?
that's what we men are asking.... biggrin.gif



==Miz_KitA==- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 11 2004, 02:23 PM)
Bakit ang mga babae matagal mag-shopping kaysa sa mga lalaki?? sad.gif

probly cuz we really wanna try to search for d best stuff in d whole shopping centre.. esp pag limited ang budget.. plus d fact dat der may b new fashion itemz na babagay sa amin.. isa na rin yung pabago bago ang isip.. na fit na yung damit at lahat biglang ooppzz.. tingin muna ako sa kabila bka may mas maganda.. tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

pero bottom line is .. we juz enjoy shopping.. kahit window shopping lang.. lalong lalo na pag hindi pera namin yung pinambibili.. jk tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

==Miz_KitA==- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (walangkakwentakwenta @ Jun 11 2004, 02:39 PM)
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 11 2004, 01:56 PM)
QUOTE (walangkakwentakwenta @ Jun 10 2004, 06:24 PM)
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 10 2004, 12:51 PM)
i think d biggest misconception wud b...

"that women lack the basic human intellectual qualities to be equal to men"


That brings me to another question:

Why is there in women's thoughts about double standards in equality of sexes?


You want to be treated equal in terms of salary, intelligence, job performance, job position, power in politics and stuffs....... but on a date, you want men to open the door for you, let you sit in the car first, pull the chair for you and all those chivalrous acts. tambayan/4_6_2v.gif

based on d 2 examplez dat u cited.. i don't think it cud b considered as double standard in equality of sexes on d women'z perspective.. bcuz both examplez wer actually standardz set by MEN:

On ur first example bout equal treatment.. History showz dat men dictated civilization and put women on an inferior position.. even lawz wer masculine bcuz d lawmakerz wer all men.. it'z like women wer juz placed in a corner and wer told dat these r d only rolez u have to play.. der was even another misconception dat "women who became educated or pursue careers permanently sacrifice their chances to have a family in the process"... it was tailored precisely to discourage women from seeking independence.. these misconceptionz r d onez women have been fighting for all dis yearz.. boiling down to one thing "EQUAL RIGHTZ.. EQUAL OPPORTUNITY".. and i think we deserve it tambayan/thmbup.gif

On ur second example bout chivalry actz on datez.. women didn't ask for it.. in d mid 1800s Men decided to adopt a "Gentleman's Etiquette" for d purpose of creating a so-called "polite society".. and adhering to such etiquette wud make them noble and respectable supreme beingz tambayan/rolleyes2.gif .. i juz don't understand y men create such rulez and now they ask women to explain "why" tambayan/altpissed.gif tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

That's basically what my question is......If men set both of these rules, Why do women want to change the first rule(equal opportunites and such) and prefer to stay the second one(the chivalrous acts)? If we will talk about equality of sexes, Why can't we change both?
that's what we men are asking.... biggrin.gif

Women shud fight for its rightz on d first rule bcuz it directly and adversely affectz us.. y wud we want to change d 2nd rule for ur sake.. dat'z men'z problem.. men created dat not us.. the etiquette still existz and continuez to educate our society.. being taught in skulz.. y don't u tell ur authorz to abolish it.. tambayan/naughty.gif .. anyway it's still ur choice to abide by it or not.. but as long as it stayz.. some women wud still prefer to have a "gentleman" for a partner.. plus pointz yun tambayan/thmbup.gif

p.s. wat'z wrong wid being a gentleman ?.. it'z to ur advantage anyway.. don't u wanna b NOBLE and RESPECTABLE and SUPREME?? tambayan/naughty.gif tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

Raider- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 11 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 11 2004, 02:23 PM)
Bakit ang mga babae matagal mag-shopping kaysa sa mga lalaki?? sad.gif

probly cuz we really wanna try to search for d best stuff in d whole shopping centre.. esp pag limited ang budget.. plus d fact dat der may b new fashion itemz na babagay sa amin.. isa na rin yung pabago bago ang isip.. na fit na yung damit at lahat biglang ooppzz.. tingin muna ako sa kabila bka may mas maganda.. tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

pero bottom line is .. we juz enjoy shopping.. kahit window shopping lang.. lalong lalo na pag hindi pera namin yung pinambibili.. jk tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

akala ko kasi mas maraming pera pang shopping ang mga babae kaysa sa lalaki eh... tambayan/LOL.gif

==Miz_KitA==- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 11 2004, 03:01 PM)
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 11 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 11 2004, 02:23 PM)
Bakit ang mga babae matagal mag-shopping kaysa sa mga lalaki?? sad.gif

probly cuz we really wanna try to search for d best stuff in d whole shopping centre.. esp pag limited ang budget.. plus d fact dat der may b new fashion itemz na babagay sa amin.. isa na rin yung pabago bago ang isip.. na fit na yung damit at lahat biglang ooppzz.. tingin muna ako sa kabila bka may mas maganda.. tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

pero bottom line is .. we juz enjoy shopping.. kahit window shopping lang.. lalong lalo na pag hindi pera namin yung pinambibili.. jk tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

akala ko kasi mas maraming pera pang shopping ang mga babae kaysa sa lalaki eh... tambayan/LOL.gif

sa inyo nga galing yung pera eh.. jk tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif .. pero ako walang pera tambayan/bawl.gif .. im at d mercy of mah dad.. wawa nman ako noh sad.gif

==Miz_KitA==- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (storm @ Jun 11 2004, 02:30 AM)
parang di ka lang believe kay mizz kita ahhhh parang naiinlove ka na tambayan/5a_shit.gif

aminin mo na kasi... uyyyyy tambayan/hehehmn.gif

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==Miz_KitA==- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (coffee maker @ Jun 11 2004, 02:43 AM)
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 10 2004, 12:33 PM)
QUOTE (coffee maker @ Jun 4 2004, 03:07 AM)
When a woman says "its okay" to her partner, sometimes she doesn't mean it. How can a man distinguish if she does or doesn't mean it? smile.gif

i think it dependz on how much u know d gurl ur goin out wid.. like me kc.. most of d time im straight forward.. i tell him juz about everything.. so wen i say it'z ok den elaborate on it .. like "i understand wat u did blah blah blah".. den dat meanz it'z really ok..

but wen i say it'z ok period.. mejo delikado ka na nun.. mag isip isip ka na tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

unsure.gif

nag iisip ka ba nyan??? tambayan/naughty.gif tambayan/hehehmn.gif

==Miz_KitA==- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (coffee maker @ Jun 11 2004, 02:47 AM)
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 10 2004, 01:13 PM)
QUOTE (coffee maker @ Jun 4 2004, 03:21 AM)
Do you think "Dutch Treat" is a first-date taboo? smile.gif

wer i live now.. Dutch Treat aint a taboo.. actually it'z d "IN" thing.. but personally for me.. if a guy askz me out on a date.. i expect him to pay for it.. otherwise.. dat wud b d first and last time he'll c me tambayan/hehehmn.gif

tambayan/bawl.gif

tambayan/console.gif don't wori i'll lend u some money pag nakipag date ka tambayan/console.gif .. puno na piggy bank ko.. yun nga lang puro coinz tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

==Miz_KitA==- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (coffee maker @ Jun 11 2004, 03:15 AM)
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 10 2004, 03:26 PM)
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 10 2004, 02:54 PM)
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 10 2004, 11:12 AM)
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 10 2004, 03:27 AM)
Bakit ang mga babae minsan mahirap maintindihan?? sad.gif

dat'z wer d mystery liez tambayan/naughty.gif .. d ba mas may "thrill" yung ganon.. kc kung lagi lang tayo nagkakaintindihan magiging boring na.. d relationship tendz to stagnate.. so maghahanap na kayo ng ibang challenge tambayan/whistle.gif


thanks..yeah..u r rite... pero how long kayong ndi magkakaintindihan?? parati bang dapat ganun para may challenge?? sad.gif

i guess d longer u stay together.. eventually u'll learn to understand each other.. to d point na kahit konting galaw lang nya.. alam mo na ibig nyang sabihin.. d na nya kelangan magsalita pa.. gaya nga ng sabi ng ibang mag-asawa.. habang tumatagal ang pagsasama nila .. para nalang daw clang magkapatid.. cguro kc dey know each other too well.. nawala na yung challenge.. nawala na rin yung spark sad.gif .. pero ang importante magkasama pa rin cla.. and they feel comfortable living together smile.gif

in d meantime.. alwayz remember dat "communication" is important in a relationship.. so kung meron kang d naiintindihan.. tanungin mo gf mo para d ka naguguluhan ok.. pero minsan kc cnasadya na rin naming guluhin kayo.. trip lang tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

ah ganon? tambayan/515.gif

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==Miz_KitA==- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (walangkakwentakwenta @ Jun 11 2004, 01:08 PM)
hmmnnn...it looks like the girls are taking time to answer the questions this time. tambayan/whistle.gif

ako po sumagot na ha tambayan/HULA.gif

walangkakwentakwenta- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 11 2004, 02:57 PM)
Women shud fight for its rightz on d first rule bcuz it directly and adversely affectz us.. y wud we want to change d 2nd rule for ur sake.. dat'z men'z problem.. men created dat not us.. the etiquette still existz and continuez to educate our society.. being taught in skulz.. y don't u tell ur authorz to abolish it.. tambayan/naughty.gif .. anyway it's still ur choice to abide by it or not.. but as long as it stayz.. some women wud still prefer to have a "gentleman" for a partner.. plus pointz yun  tambayan/thmbup.gif 


I think that's double standards....you want to change and fight something because it's unfair to be treated that way, while prefer the other something to stay that way because it's advantageous to you, even though it's not equal....


QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 11 2004, 02:57 PM)
p.s.  wat'z wrong wid being a gentleman ?.. it'z to ur advantage anyway.. don't u wanna b NOBLE and RESPECTABLE and SUPREME??  tambayan/naughty.gif  tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif
Personally, I have double standards in equality of sexes. I respect women's intellectual capacity equally as mine, I expect them to be capable of doing what I'm capable of, jobwise.

But I still open the door for them...positioning myself in the emergency side while walking with them...drive for them....treat them like princess.

Why?

It's not that I wanted to be a Noble and Supreme man, or trying to be respectable, it's just my little tribute to my mother who happens to balance well..... marriage, motherhood and career.......a symbol of a true woman. smile.gif

==Miz_KitA==- 06-11-2004
QUOTE
QUOTE
===Miz_KitA==,Jun 11 2004, 02:57 PM]Women shud fight for its rightz on d first rule bcuz it directly and adversely affectz us.. y wud we want to change d 2nd rule for ur sake.. dat'z men'z problem.. men created dat not us.. the etiquette still existz and continuez to educate our society.. being taught in skulz.. y don't u tell ur authorz to abolish it.. tambayan/naughty.gif .. anyway it's still ur choice to abide by it or not.. but as long as it stayz.. some women wud still prefer to have a "gentleman" for a partner.. plus pointz yun  tambayan/thmbup.gif 


I think that's double standards....you want to change and fight something because it's unfair to be treated that way, while prefer the other something to stay that way because it's advantageous to you, even though it's not equal....

ok to conclude briefly nalang (cuz parang naging history class na tayo eh tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif ) .. in mah personal view.. i think d etiquette issue doesn't really depict "inequality" as opposed to d "intelligence" issue.. simply bcuz in d etiquette issue.. both men and women benefit from it.. walang nang aapi at walang inaapi.. and by doing those gentlemanly actz.. men r able to show good breeding and thus increase their stature in society which they have so far been successful.. women likewise feel respected and reciprocate men by appreciating them.. so both gender obtain "equal gains".. in d form of "respect"

unlike in d "intelligence" issue.. aping api mga babae kaya nga pinaglaban talaga yun until now..

so therefore.. i don't think dat double standard in equality does exist on those two issuez

again.. dis is only mah POV.. and i don't speak for all d gurlz smile.gif



QUOTE
===Miz_KitA==,Jun 11 2004, 02:57 PM]p.s.  wat'z wrong wid being a gentleman ?.. it'z to ur advantage anyway.. don't u wanna b NOBLE and RESPECTABLE and SUPREME??  tambayan/naughty.gif  tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif
Personally, I have double standards in equality of sexes. I respect women's intellectual capacity equally as mine, I expect them to be capable of doing what I'm capable of, jobwise.

But I still open the door for them...positioning myself in the emergency side while walking with them...drive for them....treat them like princess.

Why?

It's not that I wanted to be a Noble and Supreme man, or trying to be respectable, it's just my little tribute to my mother who happens to balance well..... marriage, motherhood and career.......a symbol of a true woman. smile.gif

der u go!.. i salute u for dat tambayan/groots.gif tambayan/thmbup.gif .. so i guess der'z really nothin more to talk bout smile.gif

naughty_n_sexy- 06-11-2004
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 11 2004, 09:23 AM)
Bakit ang mga babae matagal mag-shopping kaysa sa mga lalaki?? sad.gif

tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif that's funny... well I guess women tends to pick the best of them all...that's why they keep on looking, browsing and stuff like that tambayan/05.gif
Personally, if I see something I really like, I'll buy it right away without asking someone's opinion over and over tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

Raider- 06-13-2004
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 11 2004, 03:07 PM)
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 11 2004, 03:01 PM)
QUOTE (==Miz_KitA== @ Jun 11 2004, 02:42 PM)
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 11 2004, 02:23 PM)
Bakit ang mga babae matagal mag-shopping kaysa sa mga lalaki?? sad.gif

probly cuz we really wanna try to search for d best stuff in d whole shopping centre.. esp pag limited ang budget.. plus d fact dat der may b new fashion itemz na babagay sa amin.. isa na rin yung pabago bago ang isip.. na fit na yung damit at lahat biglang ooppzz.. tingin muna ako sa kabila bka may mas maganda.. tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

pero bottom line is .. we juz enjoy shopping.. kahit window shopping lang.. lalong lalo na pag hindi pera namin yung pinambibili.. jk tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

akala ko kasi mas maraming pera pang shopping ang mga babae kaysa sa lalaki eh... tambayan/LOL.gif

sa inyo nga galing yung pera eh.. jk tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif .. pero ako walang pera tambayan/bawl.gif .. im at d mercy of mah dad.. wawa nman ako noh sad.gif

alam ko naman MZ_Kita somehow someway kukuha ng paraan ang mga babae para magakaroon sila ng pang shopping diba... smile.gif

Raider- 06-13-2004
QUOTE (naughty_n_sexy @ Jun 12 2004, 02:14 AM)
QUOTE (Raider @ Jun 11 2004, 09:23 AM)
Bakit ang mga babae matagal mag-shopping kaysa sa mga lalaki?? sad.gif

tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif that's funny... well I guess women tends to pick the best of them all...that's why they keep on looking, browsing and stuff like that tambayan/05.gif
Personally, if I see something I really like, I'll buy it right away without asking someone's opinion over and over tambayan/birgits_giggle.gif

I know its kinda funny...kasi parang ang mga babae at lalaki parang nasa ibang planeta when it comes to shopping.... tambayan/LOL.gif

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