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snafu- 09-22-2004
I believe in Him.. pero not strongly though.. :(

Eraserheads- 09-22-2004
QUOTE (snafu @ Sep 23 2004, 02:48 AM)
I believe in Him.. pero not strongly though.. :(

Hmmm... A believer... but not pure. smile.gif

Aling Pooky- 09-23-2004
QUOTE (snafu @ Sep 23 2004, 02:48 AM)
I believe in Him.. pero not strongly though.. :(

May pag alinlangan sa faith mo, para kang si Thomas, anyway it's your point of view. smile.gif

Eraserheads- 09-23-2004
QUOTE (Aling Pooky @ Sep 23 2004, 06:02 AM)
QUOTE (snafu @ Sep 23 2004, 02:48 AM)
I believe in Him.. pero not strongly though.. :(

May pag alinlangan sa faith mo, para kang si Thomas, anyway it's your point of view. smile.gif

How about you madam? unsure.gif

Aling Pooky- 09-23-2004
No Doubt! I believe!!!

Eraserheads- 09-28-2004
10 Reasons to Believe in the Existence of God

1. The Inevitability Of Faith
2. The Limitations Of Science
3. The Problems Of Evolution
4. The Habits Of The Heart
5. The Background Of Genesis
6. The Nation Of Israel
7. The Claims Of Christ
8. The Evidence Of Miracles
9. The Details Of Nature
10. The Voice Of Experience


This was shared to me by my friend and I want to share it also with you guys.

To be continued.... (Further discussion) smile.gif

Eraserheads- 09-28-2004
The Inevitability Of Faith

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Everyone believes in something. No one can endure the stress and cares of life without faith in something that cannot ultimately be proven. Atheists cannot prove there is no God. Pantheists cannot prove that everything is God. Pragmatists cannot prove that what will count for them in the future is what works for them now. Nor can agnostics prove that it is impossible to know one way or the other. Faith is unavoidable, even if we choose to believe only in ourselves. What is to be decided is what evidence we think is pertinent, how we are going to interpret that evidence, and who or what we are willing to believe in (Luke 16:16).

SPRINGFIELD_XD_40_SW- 09-29-2004

yes I do belive in GOD the Father , GOD the Son , GOD the Holy Ghost . tambayan/6.gif tambayan/6.gif

beejhae- 09-29-2004
this is like the atheist thread! tambayan/4_6_2v.gif same arguments.... I beleive in God and I respect the belief of others. atheist or theist... why can't we just live in harmony... peace bro... tambayan/groots.gif

beejhae- 09-29-2004
QUOTE (mrsteel @ Sep 3 2004, 10:39 AM)
I just noticed noticed this thread ..... and just found out that Labguy has left the PTF...

I for one am very sad to see him leave... I believe he was probably the most intelligent and sincere poster here ( no offence to anyone else)


Why is it that when someone like Labguy steps up and says he doesn't believe in a "God" that he is attacked ( by people who are supposed to "love thy enemy" , "turn the other cheek" " forgive" ....etc...)
Yet a when a believer , announces his/her belief the athiest generally just says " that's nice, good for you")

Did you ever think that maybe , the non-believer envys the believer... as a believer what do you have to fear death for ( you have eternal life waiting for you)
where as the non-believer sees himself buried in the ground being eaten by maggots)


As Labguy might say ... "I'm agnostic/atheist respect my decision....as i respect yours"....

yeah! labguy is 1 of my favorite poster here in ptf.. tambayan/thmbup.gif sayang naman.... tambayan/4_6_2v.gif I learned a lot from his posts....

Eraserheads- 10-05-2004
The Limitations Of Science

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Scientific method is limited to a process defined by that which is measurable and repeatable. By definition, it cannot speak to issues of ultimate origin, meaning, or morality. For such answers, science is dependent on the values and personal beliefs of those who use it. Science, therefore, has great potential for both good and evil. It can be used to make vaccines or poisons, nuclear power plants or nuclear weapons. It can be used to clean up the environment or to pollute it. It can be used to argue for God or against Him. Science by itself offers no moral guidance or values to govern our lives. All science can do is show us how natural law works, while telling us nothing about its origins.

weaksmile- 10-08-2004
im a believer, no further explanation needed. smile.gif

weaksmile- 10-08-2004
im a believer, no further explanation needed. smile.gif

Eraserheads- 10-12-2004
QUOTE (weaksmile @ Oct 9 2004, 01:35 AM)
im a believer, no further explanation needed. smile.gif

Another believer.... But not pure tambayan/whistle.gif

beejhae- 11-03-2004
This is one of the best explanations of why God allows pain and suffering..

A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As
the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.. They talked
about so many things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said:
"I don't believe that God exists."
"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.
"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't exist.
Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a loving a God who would allow all of these things.."

The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't want to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard.. He looked dirty and unk

The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber: "You know what? Barbers do not exist."
"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. "I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!"

"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside." "Ah, but barbers DO exist! What happens is, people do not come to me."

"Exactly!"- affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES exist! What happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's why there's so much pain and suffering in the world."

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