All I can say is, what if there is no God at all... and what if God really exist... it will not affect me living a good life, a Christlike way of living... I do believe in God. Whatever religion are you in, for me what is more important is the way how you live a life at present free from hatred, greed, disgust, chaos, etc... Live life to the fullest harmonously. We might not have life after death as many believers claims.. but who knows! we might have bonus life after all..
Chainer Chaostrike- 12-09-2004
i do belive in christ but not those other religions and those independent sect na nag susulputan ngayon........... got 1 god and that`s him
and btw
evil`s best weapon is the religion
WildSwan- 12-09-2004
To those who don't beleive in God... It doesn't matter, He beleives in you.
To thos who hate God... It doesnt' matter, He loves you.
Friends, nobody chosed God... He chosed us.
I love you all and Merry Christmas
Escaflowne777- 12-11-2004
i believe in god...
Eraserheads- 12-13-2004
I know... But how sure you are?
ahahaha- 12-14-2004
i do believe in God
just look at how orderly the universe is, or the miracle of life and you just can't stop thinking that there must be a supreme being who had is hand in all these
edz- 12-15-2004
QUOTE (WildSwan @ Dec 9 2004, 08:40 AM)
To those who don't beleive in God... It doesn't matter, He beleives in you.
To thos who hate God... It doesnt' matter, He loves you.
Friends, nobody chosed God... He chosed us.
I love you all and Merry Christmas
korek
.:Sublime:.- 12-17-2004
Hi PTF!
I apologise for this late replies... Been busy... VERY busy.. and TIRED. So, if I am not making any sense, just tell me to bugger off.
Anyway... I will do my best to fit everything into one thread.
PLANET SHAKER:
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Why is He cruel? does this go back to the issue of the many pilipinos suffering?? If it is so it is not God's fault. It's the enemy
I have been in a lot of countries and from what I have seen, God is virtually none existant.... If there is a God, there will be less people in the world suffering.
How many do you know who prayed to God for a better life? I bet you 99.9% of Catholics in the philippines have. Yet, still in their millions are out there waiting for their God to answer their prayers.
Umm... What's this enemies you're talking about?
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hehe i shud have reworder it to : we do not hear much news about them. anyway this news was in the Herald Sun last friday (i guess u have a different one u live in sydney right??)
Hmm.. I think Sunday Herald is nationwide... Whatever it was, I must have missed it. hehe
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Who says christians dont suffer persecution in a non-islamic country. It doesnt have to bne something big like christians are being killed. Even the stereotyping of christians as 'biblebashers'. anywayz personal opinion
I don't think I have ever stated that christians never face persecution... I was pointing out that it happens both ways... Stating that christians suffers from persecution is one dimensional and bias views... Every religion or race faces some kind of persection, NOT just christians.
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You certainly deserve you life then because im telling you the taxi drivers in the philippines who work for 14 hourse straight are working as hard or even harder than you but they can never get the life that you have. And there are people who are born into a rich family that end up having cancer or sumthing. I dont believe in luck. so i wont say you're lucky. But you certainly have it going for you.
I'm sure they work hard. But, working long hours does not mean a person works harder than someone who works in less hours. Judge them by the kind of work they do for a living.
I may work less hours but that does not mean I accomplished less.
If people works long hours, it shows that they have done so little. (no offense)
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Oh i am so sorry i am talking about a person in the bible called Job. hehe i didnt make myself clear.
Ahh... Lol... Shows how much I know about the bible, eh?
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ok i will tell you something that i hope you will respect (because my friend told a person this in a nother forum and they laughed, which has caused her to think badly of that person)
I am not as experienced in life. i am only 15 (hope you wont lauch because this guy did and he was really mean to my friend) anyway bak to your q's
Don't worry, I only laugh at people that I meant to offend.
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YES i have faith in God. He is there always to guide me. YES i have faith in the bible. It is God's word. The answer to your question is very hard. I havent been in a situation where my life was threatened because of my faith. but i have faced persecution (not as bad though) What i know is I love Him. The answer to your q then is yes.
"Whoever lives their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will gain it"
wishes?? prayers. yeah im doing a talk for a chapel service at my school on thrusday. i need Him to do the talking.
I could never understand that (could you and anyone else please explain? ). If your God is always there to guide you... Does that mean that for every decision you made God has guided you through them? Does that mean that every event in your life was God's will and not yours? Hmm... I guess its true. Life is made of multiple choice. "Yes or No" This and That" "here or there"
Having faith in the bible means having faith in the people who translated and published the bible. The words of God are on their hands... Is your faith strong enough to die for the people who has translated and published the words of God?
After all, the only truth about the bible is through them. It is through their translation that God exist today.
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wishes?? prayers. yeah im doing a talk for a chapel service at my school on thrusday. i need Him to do the talking.
So, what did God say?
Anyway... Good luck with your studies, mate.
SPARCO:
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therefore, if there is no GOD, why bother to prove HIS non EXISTENCE? Christians or believers did not prove GOD'S EXISTENCE, it is by FAITH that we/they believed HE EXISTS..
Then why on earth read a bible and calling it the words of God?
Anyway... that does not answer the question. What is the benchmark of your beliefs and faith in God? Or, are you just one of those individuals who floats which ever the waves takes you?
MAXTOMAX:
Thank you for your reply... I apologise for not having a response. I don't understand what you just said. unless someone could translate, please?
PANGET:
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There are so many Filipinos suffering in their everyday life because of the lunatics who have run or are running the country to the ground. These sufferings are inflicted by man, not God.
So, why bother praying to God if God could do nothing to change the faith of the philippine people through the man/woman running the country?
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We are created with free will. You either choose to be good or to be bad. Unfortunately some who have chosen to be evil and be blinded by money have actions that inflict pain on others. Consequences of free will. Reason why we are ask to be our brother's keepers.
Blame "free will" when God fails to do what he meant to do for his children.... or puppets.
Doesn't God guides those who believes in him? If so, Do you think he is leading them to the greener pasture or greyer dump site?
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I believe in God, but I have no faith in religion
Care to elaborate?
As I have asked the other two participants of this debate... I'd like to ask you the same question.
If you have no faith in Religion, What is the benchmark of your beliefs and faith in God?
Did God just materialised right in front of you?
JUSTICE LEAGUE:
Hey there Justice! Are you missing Labguy?
Well, I could never be up to his league. But, I'll try my best to keep your mind busy.
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We experience pain and suffering because our foreparents made a decision wherein they would have to live in a world were such existed.
Is that where God guided them into?
I understand about free will and all that, but what I dont understand is how people talk about "God's Guidance" yet, you see a lot of them living in a hell hole. Yet (again) their faith in God is unmeasurable.
WILDSWAN:
Hey, Bro!
Nice to hear from you.
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To those who don't beleive in God... It doesn't matter, He beleives in you.
To thos who hate God... It doesnt' matter, He loves you.
Friends, nobody chosed God... He chosed us.
Well, there you go. I gained something by doing nothing.
Why waste valuable time reading bible, praying, and going to church if that statement is true?
Hehe I have to keep it short, since the sun is rising and I have to work in 2 hours... I think I forgot to sleep.
Isn't it weird.... I don't believe in God and yet I celebrate Christmas? LMAO
Advance MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR PTF!!!
Eraserheads- 12-19-2004
Well said dude.
JeanChry- 12-20-2004
Yes. Message lang sa mga naniniwala kay God - it's normal to doubt sometimes.. But God is there, always.
Eraserheads- 01-04-2005
QUOTE (JeanChry @ Dec 20 2004, 01:39 PM)
Yes. Message lang sa mga naniniwala kay God - it's normal to doubt sometimes.. But God is there, always.
I cant feel it... Why he always do that to me?
Aquarian- 01-05-2005
QUOTE (Eraserheads @ Jan 4 2005, 08:23 AM)
QUOTE (JeanChry @ Dec 20 2004, 01:39 PM)
Yes. Message lang sa mga naniniwala kay God - it's normal to doubt sometimes.. But God is there, always.
I cant feel it... Why he always do that to me?
Kasi you close your mind that HE exists.....
Kung ano man ang nararanasan mong problem sa buhay...binigay nya yun sayo just to make you a better person...At hindi nya yun ibibigay sayo kung hindi mo kaya...Trust HIM and He will do the rest.
D_Engineer- 01-06-2005
QUOTE (Eraserheads @ Jan 4 2005, 03:23 AM)
QUOTE (JeanChry @ Dec 20 2004, 01:39 PM)
Yes. Message lang sa mga naniniwala kay God - it's normal to doubt sometimes.. But God is there, always.
I cant feel it... Why he always do that to me?
Just open your heart and you can feel his love....
God loved the people of this world so much that HE gave HIS only son, so that everyone who has faith in him will have eternal life and never die (John 3:16)
"The kingdom of God is not coming with things that can be observed; nor will they say, 'Look, here it is!' or 'There it is!' For, in fact, the kingdom of God is among you." (Jesus as quoted by Luke 17:20b-21)
Eraserheads- 01-06-2005
QUOTE (Aquarian @ Jan 6 2005, 02:52 AM)
QUOTE (Eraserheads @ Jan 4 2005, 08:23 AM)
QUOTE (JeanChry @ Dec 20 2004, 01:39 PM)
Yes. Message lang sa mga naniniwala kay God - it's normal to doubt sometimes.. But God is there, always.
I cant feel it... Why he always do that to me?
Kasi you close your mind that HE exists.....
Kung ano man ang nararanasan mong problem sa buhay...binigay nya yun sayo just to make you a better person...At hindi nya yun ibibigay sayo kung hindi mo kaya...Trust HIM and He will do the rest.
How long I will suffer this kind of treatment? How will I trust him if he always hurting me? Maybe we only creating something that doesnt really exist...
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