Pilipinas Maging Sakop Ng Estados Unidos

QUOTE (walangkakwentakwenta @ Oct 28 2004, 12:57 AM)

QUOTE (Lionheart @ Oct 28 2004, 05:05 AM)

BOOOOOOOOOOM!

China hits Taiwan with unexpected non stop bombing! Taiwan falls! Next, Japan! Then... Philippines! WWW III!!

Hmmm... I wonder who's the President of the Philippines fist call for help?
Never underestimate a possible reality... Philippines is dependable to US! Admit it or not!

Economically, Philippines needs help also. Phillipines is not getting better... only getting worse!
US however, have been in a hole (The great depression), and got herself out. Now, shes in the hole again, but make no mistake, she will get herself out of the hole again.
Also, why does some people take help and give nothing back? NOTHING is free in this world. I hope people get that. US's intention will benefit the Philippines more than the US.
Philippines needs help. Swallow your pride people, take all the help you can get.

No offense.

And what exactly your point sir? You said the Philippines needs help......OK
and??

If you're saying that the US can help the present Philippine situation and in return the Philippines would become the 51st state.....then that's not help, that's ACQUISITION.

What do you mean "and...?" My point is... take the help!

If the Philippines really need help that bad (as I see it, Philippines does)... well... let me put this in a different context. If a single parent cant take care, support, have no future for her/his child, the best thing is to give the child up for adoption... to someone who can. The child will have a better future then. I'm not seeing the Philippines getting better.

In my opinion, The Philippines will have better future under the wings of US. It will be a benefit for both. But that doesnt meant that US will make the Philippines the next state. Us invaded Iraq, gave their freedom, and handed it over back to the Iraqis. No US politican in control whatsoever! US is just in the lookout.

What I mean by swallowing your pride is... if US is in control of the Philippines, that doesnt mean that filipinos and the Philippines are losing their or our trait. I live in another country and I'm filipino as filipino can be! So far, I've seen alot of negative responses about this issue and not enough positive. Wouldnt it be better if we or our families didnt have to go to another country to study, work, or become someone else's mga katulong? I know and I have alot of families who migrated in another country just to have a better life... and future! I know and I also have alot of families that went to another country to work just so their families back in the Philippines can have better life. The love and miss the Philippines, but they only want to be back for vacation and see thier families. Wouldnt it be better if we didnt have to go through stuff like that?

Heh, just my opinion.

What do you mean "and...?" My point is... take the help!
OK take the help...but what's the actual scenario and what does the Philippines needs to give back in return? as you've mentioned, nothing is free in this world.

If the Philippines really need help that bad (as I see it, Philippines does)... well... let me put this in a different context. If a single parent cant take care, support, have no future for her/his child, the best thing is to give the child up for adoption... to someone who can. The child will have a better future then. I'm not seeing the Philippines getting better.
your analogy seems like a little different from the situation....as it consists the parent and the child itself, whereas the Philippines is a whole entity. it would have been this way: a person who's lost, disoriented, divested physically and morally is presenting itself for adoption...or perhaps willing to be a chattel.

In my opinion, The Philippines will have better future under the wings of US. It will be a benefit for both. But that doesnt meant that US will make the Philippines the next state. Us invaded Iraq, gave their freedom, and handed it over back to the Iraqis. No US politican in control whatsoever! US is just in the lookout.
ooppss, I don't think Iraq and the Philippines can be a good camparison. Iraq is under dictatorian rule, has huge oil reserves, a muslim country and was under a guy who's responsible of the president's father's loss from Bill...a total different milieu from the Philippines.

What I mean by swallowing your pride is... if US is in control of the Philippines, that doesnt mean that filipinos and the Philippines are losing their or our trait. I live in another country and I'm filipino as filipino can be! So far, I've seen alot of negative responses about this issue and not enough positive. Wouldnt it be better if we or our families didnt have to go to another country to study, work, or become someone else's mga katulong? I know and I have alot of families who migrated in another country just to have a better life... and future! I know and I also have alot of families that went to another country to work just so their families back in the Philippines can have better life. The love and miss the Philippines, but they only want to be back for vacation and see thier families. Wouldnt it be better if we didnt have to go through stuff like that?
Like you, I've been to a lot of places also, met different kind of folks and had observed the hardships of our fellow pinoys...but that only encourages me to strive for the better so I can show the world, in my own little way, that I am a Filipino, willing to do or contribute changes for the betterment of my country...that there are still ways to do it instead of becomming a sovereign state from another country.

QUOTE (walangkakwentakwenta @ Oct 28 2004, 11:26 PM)

What do you mean "and...?" My point is... take the help!
OK take the help...but what's the actual scenario and what does the Philippines needs to give back in return? as you've mentioned, nothing is free in this world. As far as that is concerned, I'm not so sure. But I'm sure they can work something out through negotiations without crossing much boundaries.

If the Philippines really need help that bad (as I see it, Philippines does)... well... let me put this in a different context. If a single parent cant take care, support, have no future for her/his child, the best thing is to give the child up for adoption... to someone who can. The child will have a better future then. I'm not seeing the Philippines getting better.
your analogy seems like a little different from the situation....as it consists the parent and the child itself, whereas the Philippines is a whole entity. it would have been this way: a person who's lost, disoriented, divested physically and morally is presenting itself for adoption...or perhaps willing to be a chattel. Ok... but you get my point.

In my opinion, The Philippines will have better future under the wings of US. It will be a benefit for both. But that doesnt meant that US will make the Philippines the next state. Us invaded Iraq, gave their freedom, and handed it over back to the Iraqis. No US politican in control whatsoever! US is just in the lookout.
ooppss, I don't think Iraq and the Philippines can be a good camparison. Iraq is under dictatorian rule, has huge oil reserves, a muslim country and was under a guy who's responsible of the president's father's loss from Bill...a total different milieu from the Philippines. Though Philippines and Iraq are so much different, the concept is the same.

What I mean by swallowing your pride is... if US is in control of the Philippines, that doesnt mean that filipinos and the Philippines are losing their or our trait. I live in another country and I'm filipino as filipino can be! So far, I've seen alot of negative responses about this issue and not enough positive. Wouldnt it be better if we or our families didnt have to go to another country to study, work, or become someone else's mga katulong? I know and I have alot of families who migrated in another country just to have a better life... and future! I know and I also have alot of families that went to another country to work just so their families back in the Philippines can have better life. The love and miss the Philippines, but they only want to be back for vacation and see thier families. Wouldnt it be better if we didnt have to go through stuff like that?
Like you, I've been to a lot of places also, met different kind of folks and had observed the hardships of our fellow pinoys...but that only encourages me to strive for the better so I can show the world, in my own little way, that I am a Filipino, willing to do or contribute changes for the betterment of my country...that there are still ways to do it **instead of becomming a sovereign state from another country. **I dont see anything wrong with that.

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QUOTE (Lionheart @ Oct 30 2004, 04:02 AM)

...that there are still ways to do it **instead of becomming a sovereign state from another country. **I dont see anything wrong with that.

For you this is nothing wrong as your life (and principle) is not at stake....but for many Filipinos like me who's striving to prove our own nationality, there is (much much)something wrong.

And you're saying that you're sure there's something to work with through negotiations without crossing much boundaries...well please enlighten us which and what. Be specific so we will know the facts....please don't speculate.

And what the same concept? adoption? well...it may be the same, but the stakes are so much different, obviously, it would yield different results.

So please give some specifics and actual/practical explanations so we can digest your point.......who knows, you might be right.

I’m not sure anything I reply will be rebut by you, but I have a hence you probably will. Though you might get what I’m saying, you’d still probably be against it. I’m just assuming. No, its not that I don’t have a legit reason or and explanations, its just that you’d probably just omit what I say and just rebut. Also, with people here already hot about the issue, and with an abundance of Filipinos hating the US already, I’m afraid it’d just create unnecessary flame. I tried to be as broad as possible and let you guys think for yourself, and hopefully get the point, but obviously that didn’t happen. I’m pretty straight up with my words and if I do actually explain, I’m pretty sure I’ll offend someone (maybe even you), and this will lead to nowhere but spiraling flame. So, no thanks. Sorry if my post didn’t meet your expectations.

I'll have to respect your call...... I think it's now time for others to give some comments on this issue.

[SIZE=14][SIZE=7][I][SIZE=7][/I][FONT=Optima][color=purple][font=Times][i]I read all the post and sense the seriousness of the others as well as the humor of some. But because of the diversity of the opinions I shall reply on it according to subjects and not on the topic perse in order to express mine accordingly. Am glad to see the concern of each and everyone. It is inspiring.

QUOTE (baklita @ Mar 6 2004, 05:40 AM)

sweet gent...

ipagpalagay natin na posible ito... papayag ka ba?
mas gaganda ba ang takbo ng buhay nating mga pinoy?

aihihihi!!!

oo naman kung pu-pwede.Bakit hinde.[FONT=Times][SIZE=7]

QUOTE (gent @ Mar 6 2004, 05:52 AM)

QUOTE (baklita @ Mar 5 2004, 09:40 PM)

sweet gent...

ipagpalagay natin na posible ito... papayag ka ba?
mas gaganda ba ang takbo ng buhay nating mga pinoy?

aihihihi!!!

bkit hindi? oo papayag ako..

tanong mo kung gaganda pa ba ang buhay nating mga pinoy?

yan ang hindi ko alam. tambayan/dontknow.gif

, naniniwala kasi ako na nasa tao ang ikauunlad nang buhay diba? kung tamad ka, wala kang mararating , pero kung nag susumikap ka eh maaring maging maganda ang buhay mo.

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gaganda ang buhay ng mga pinoy kase pwede na silang pumunta sa mainland ng walang problema pag naging us na ang lahat ng passport ng pinoy kahit saan pwede na syang pumunta ng walang visa. so uunlad na sya
kahit pa anong sipag ng tao kung wala ka din lang makuhang trabaho wala ding say say ang kasipagan mo.

QUOTE (kelot_ni_balot @ Mar 7 2004, 01:11 AM)

QUOTE (baklita @ Mar 5 2004, 08:11 PM)

papayag ba kyo na maging bahagi ng United States ang Pilipinas?

tyak mabigyan ng solusyon ang kakurakutan, ang kidnapping, npa, abu sayyaf.
maiahon tyo sa kahirapan at gaganda ang kabuhayan ng halos lahat ng pinoy.

aihihihi!!!

Bakit...akala nyo ba pinakawalan na tayo ng mga KANO....say lang nila ang lumayas sa PINAS...pero, yung presensiya ng mga kulokoy ay very visible.
Kung Nanalo lang ang proposition ng nasirang senator Antonino...noong pinaglalaban niya ang Statehood...noong 1960's, di sana puro tayo US CITIZEN, at di na TNT sa Tate...dibanuuuuu.... tambayan/yucky.gif

Hindi na maaari tayong maging Es-ta-te ng Kanuto..dahil...sa population na lang ng Pinas na 87 million... tambayan/yucky.gif

may isang pwedeng maging presidente ng USA...kita mo na lang sa American Idol ngayon...dalawang Pinay na ang nasa TOP 30. :bounce lol:
KAYO GUSTO NYO PANG PASAKOP SA TATE? Tatanda at lilipas din ako..tayo... puro PX goods pa rin ang hilig ng ating inang bayan. :asar:
Tatanda at lilipas din tayo...marami pa ring NPA at Abu Sayaf sa Pinas.... :asar:

hinde ang popular vote ang nag de determine ng presidente, ELECTORAL college! ang nag dedetermine nito!
kaya kahit pa 87 million (as you've said) ang bomoto sa sino mang maging kandidato mula sa pilipinas hinde eto dahilan para maging pangulo sya ng amerika!

QUOTE (baklita @ Mar 7 2004, 10:40 PM)

isang disavantage kung masakop tyo ng US...
unti-unting mawawala ang filipino identity natin... di po kya?

aihihihi!!!

sa papaanong paraan ma wawala?
kung maging 51st state tayo, we shall have everything even the language ,flag laws, everything. ang ma papadag dag lang eh federal laws and federal jurisdiction At KAUNLARAN

QUOTE (catburglar @ Mar 13 2004, 06:39 PM)

yoko nga...at least may sarili pa tayong identity kahit konti lang

KELAN NA NAWALAN NG IDENTITY ANG PINOY?
KAHIT PA ANONG MAGING PASS PORT NG PINOY, PINOY PA RIN YAN! KAHIT PA ANO ANG MAGING CITIZENSHIP NIYAN, PINOY PA RIN YAN! HINDE YAN MAPAGKAKAMALANG CAUCASEAN!

QUOTE (walangkakwentakwenta @ Apr 8 2004, 12:32 AM)

Strategically, the US needs the Philippines(although they have Saipan but it's too small) to solidify their position in Asia Pacific with the imminent rise of China as the next superpower nation, and yeah, North Korea's threat. (the US wanted a permanent military presence in the Philippines but also, they wanted to maintain the previous arrangement which is paying us their stay through humanitarian aid, so we threw them out because we wanted them to pay taxes so they would be obligated)

That's not counting our vast natural resources in Mindanao, (the US predicted their country to have a food shortage by 2050's) and of course the Deuterium deposit in Philippine deep , the hard water(H3O) which could be a potential source of fuel, an alternative to gasoline.

But personally, I don't want us to be one of the US states simply because our forefathers sacrificed their bloods and lives just to gain our independence and we should appreciate their efforts by retaining it, thus, we also need to sacrifice ourselves, work harder, to improve our present economic and political situation, not by looking for the shortest and easiest route.......... that's selfishness.

And besides, I'm still very proud to be called as a Filipino, not an American or any other nationality.

WALA BA SILANG BASES SA jAPAN? IF YOUR TRYING TO TELL US ABOUT SECURITY. LIKE WISE THEY JUST RESPECT THE SENATE VOTE. KAYA SILA UMALIS.NO OTHER REASON. kUNG SAKALI MANG GUSTO NILANG MANATILI ETO AY HINDE DAHIL SA KAILANGAN NILA TAYO. AYAW NA LANG NILANG MAG GAWA PA NG BAGONG MGA BASE. KAYA NAG TITIYAGA NA LANG SILA SA AT SA LUMANG BASE NILA DITO.
FOOD SHORTAGE SA 2050? ALAM MO BA KUNG GA-ANO KALAKI ANG AMERICA? YUNG MINDANAO KASYA SA TEXAS. ISANG STATE LANG YUN KAYA ME 48 PA OR 46 PA PWERA HAWAI AT ALASKA.

PINOY AKO SA ISIP PUSO AT DIWA...PINOY AKO!, ME AGIMAT ANG DUGO KO!